Zed · dev · Zulip Chat Archive

Stream: dev

Topic: Zed

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 22 2024 at 12:56):

A little bird told me about Zed and I just downloaded it after listening to https://changelog.com/podcast/531

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 22 2024 at 12:57):

Does it have a Markdown previewer?

Jan Range (May 22 2024 at 13:04):

Yes, it has :smile: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/6958

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 22 2024 at 13:06):

Ah ha! Wow, I'm not sure I would have found it. Thanks! Should I get used to hitting cmd-shift-p? :grinning:

Jan Range (May 22 2024 at 13:07):

Yes, there is plenty to explore :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Jan Range (May 22 2024 at 13:07):

The "Multiplayer" Editor is very handy when working together

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 22 2024 at 13:08):

We'll have to try it sometime. :grinning:

Jan Range (May 22 2024 at 13:10):

Sure! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 22 2024 at 20:44):

Multiplayer was fun! Reminds me of Code With Me: https://www.jetbrains.com/code-with-me/

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 23 2024 at 14:35):

Weird that I have to hit Shift-PageDown instead of just PageDown to move the cursor. :thumbs_up: to https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/8993

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 23 2024 at 16:22):

Ok, Zed is driving me a bit crazy about how if I simply save a file without making changes and do a git status there are a load of changes. For example: changes.txt

Jan Range (May 23 2024 at 17:02):

You can turn off format on save

Jan Range (May 23 2024 at 17:03):

Adding this to the settings or the specific language should work:

"format_on_save": "off"

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 23 2024 at 17:17):

Interesting. I guess I should start a list of issues to track, like I have for Zulip: https://github.com/pdurbin/zulip/discussions/1

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 23 2024 at 21:02):

Even Google Docs does what I expect when I PageUp or PageDown. The cursor moves.

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 24 2024 at 10:16):

Ha, the first one got merged already. :grinning:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (May 24 2024 at 11:10):

Come to think of it, @Vaida Plankytė do you happen to be on a Mac? If so we could use Zed for collaborative editing in a few hours as we continue to hack on the upcoming Contributor Guide. #ux-wg > Contributor Guide

Ceilyn Boyd (Jun 10 2024 at 20:28):

:eyes: Phil sent me!

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Jun 10 2024 at 20:30):

Ha. Zed is not perfect (I have a half-written blog post about it), but it's definitely interesting.

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Jul 01 2024 at 21:06):

Ha, I just converted @Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva , I think. :crazy:

Some audio troubles in Zed, though, so we used Zoom for audio. :thinking:

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Jul 01 2024 at 21:07):

It may be some security settings with the microphone and mac but I will check that later :laughing:

Oliver Bertuch (Jul 12 2024 at 09:06):

Available for Linux now, too! https://www.heise.de/en/news/Code-editor-Zed-released-for-Linux-9798635.html and https://zed.dev/docs/linux#installing-via-a-package-manager

Oliver Bertuch (Jul 12 2024 at 10:19):

Anyone interested in trying cross-platform?

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Jul 12 2024 at 10:36):

Absolutely!

Vaida Plankytė 🎨 (Jul 12 2024 at 20:42):

Philip Durbin said:

Come to think of it, Vaida Plankytė do you happen to be on a Mac? If so we could use Zed for collaborative editing in a few hours as we continue to hack on the upcoming Contributor Guide. #ux-wg > Contributor Guide

i was too curious about all this Zed business that I've built it from source so I could try it on Windows... I haven't installed all the dependencies, so the actual collaborative features might not work, but I'd be curious to try at the next Contrib UX WG call! :big_smile:

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Jul 12 2024 at 20:44):

At least on Windows now you could have a VM running Ubuntu and use the Linux version :smile:

Vaida Plankytė 🎨 (Jul 12 2024 at 20:45):

true that! i'll have to try that out if my hacky build doesn't work :big_smile:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Jul 12 2024 at 20:46):

@Oliver Bertuch told me just today that Zed is supported on Linux now (without compiling it yourself, I mean).

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Jul 12 2024 at 20:48):

Yes! The linux version is officially released so while the native Windows version is not out yet, now you can run the Linux version on Windows with a VM so at least that is something :sweat_smile:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 18 2024 at 20:56):

I'm using Zed to write the 6.4 release notes and I love it. It has a nice Markdown previewer built in.

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Sep 18 2024 at 20:57):

Can I come to see? :laughing:

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Sep 18 2024 at 20:58):

VS code also has a MD preview :sweat_smile:

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Sep 18 2024 at 20:58):

But I wonder how they compare :thinking:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 18 2024 at 21:00):

Sure! Come on over.

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 19 2024 at 14:53):

@Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva were you suitably impressed? :grinning:

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Sep 19 2024 at 19:15):

Philip Durbin 🐉 said:

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva were you suitably impressed? :grinning:

I wonder how it would handle TOC and emojis :laughing:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 19 2024 at 19:16):

Bah. I haven't added to TOC yet. Yes, it would be nice to have a preview of that!

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 19 2024 at 19:16):

I threw a :croissant: in there but then took it out. No emojis! :angry:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Nov 01 2024 at 13:17):

Is anyone using Zed with Ollama? It seems to work fine.
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Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Nov 01 2024 at 20:32):

Oh wow, so you just type on zed and it makes the request to ollama?

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Nov 01 2024 at 20:34):

WOULD YOU LIKE A DEMO

Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva (Nov 01 2024 at 20:36):

Maybe next week :laughter_tears: when I am at the office :smile:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Nov 01 2024 at 20:36):

yeah, in person is better

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Nov 12 2024 at 15:34):

I wrote a blog post about how I'm using Zed with Ollama: http://blog.greptilian.com/2024/11/09/ollama-enchanted-open-web-ui-and-zed/

Jan Range (Nov 14 2024 at 10:24):

That's great! Since you're running a local Ollama instance, have you noticed any performance changes? I've been using it for other tasks as well, and I've noticed it has had a substantial impact on my machine. I'm using an M3 Pro.

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Nov 14 2024 at 12:09):

Not really. I have an M3 at work and an M1 at home and I can't really tell I have Ollama running. Maybe I need to exercise these machines more! :muscle: :sweat_smile:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 14:43):

@Jan Range please remind me, are you using Zed for Python?

On a line like spec = cp.detect(url, ref=ref) how do I tell Zed I want to go to the detect() function?

Here's that line, by the way, if the context helps: https://github.com/jupyterhub/repo2docker/blob/2024.07.0/repo2docker/app.py#L494

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 14:47):

I am afraid that it does not support this feature atm. Typically you would go cmd + left click, but it does not work. Maybe I am missing a language server option.

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 14:47):

Does not work on my side either.

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 14:49):

Got it! You need to install the LSP extension

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 14:49):

https://github.com/rgbkrk/python-lsp-zed-extension

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 14:52):

Hmm, I need to run a language server? I'll check this out soon. Thanks!

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 14:52):

I just installed the extension and there is no extra setup required :smile:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 14:55):

Huh, globally? I guess I'm confused where I install it. I don't start a venv before I start Zed. Or do you mean I should install it in my local git checkout of the repo2docker project?

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 14:57):

Sorry, that might have been confusing. When you hit cmd + p and search for "extensions" you are taken to a search field where you can install the LSP extension.

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Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:00):

Ok, installed it, thanks.

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:01):

cmd+left click seems to be F12 (go to definition)

It works on "info" in self.log,info(... but not "detect" in cp.detect(....

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:11):

Meh that's a pity :frown: Are you working with conda or venv?

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:14):

venv

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:14):

But should that matter? Should Zed be able to just navigate the code?

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:14):

After just cloning, for example.

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:16):

Is the detect method part of the repo you are in? You need to specify a pyrightconfig.json per project so Zed knows from which environment it should grab the details of packages. Pretty cumbersome, I dont really like their decision in that respect. Let me look for a tutorial

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:16):

"detect" is an interface by the way. cp.detect is implemented in each of the content providers. Maybe that's why it doesn't work. In Netbeans, with Java anyway, I can do something like "show implementation" and I get a dropdown to choose which implementation (which content provider) I want to go to.

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:16):

https://zed.dev/docs/languages/python

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:16):

Yes, detect is in the same code base.

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:18):

Maybe specifying the venv helps with that, but since it is in the same directory that is kind of odd

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:19):

They have recently added a new language server, but I have not given it a shot.

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/20358

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:26):

This is what I mean in Netbeans (getInfo() Java example):

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Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:27):

Anyway, thanks. For now I'll lower my expectations. And maybe I'll ask in #python for other suggested editors. :big_smile:

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:29):

I know that's a deal breaker and a pity that such a basic feature is not supported :-(

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:30):

Ever since you introduced me to Cursor, I've been using it exclusively :grinning:

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:30):

Full circle back to VSCode :woozy_face:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:35):

Ha. But even VSCode is giving me trouble:

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Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:36):

:anguish::anguish::anguish:

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:36):

Today is not a good day for neither VSCode or Zed :grinning:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:41):

And we're getting 2 inches (5 cm) of rain. :rainy:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:42):

2024-12-11 10:31:09.830 [error] Unknown: Unknown error while installing extension ms-python.python :sob:

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:47):

Philip Durbin 🐉 schrieb:

And we're getting 2 inches (5 cm) of rain. :rainy:

Signs are not good today :sob:

Jan Range (Dec 11 2024 at 15:47):

Philip Durbin 🐉 schrieb:

2024-12-11 10:31:09.830 [error] Unknown: Unknown error while installing extension ms-python.python :sob:

The worst of errors to receive :skull:

Philip Durbin 🚀 (Dec 11 2024 at 15:52):

Anyway, none of this is Zed's fault. Sorry, Zed. :heart: I still use you for Markdown all the time! And I appreciate the new "preview Markdown" button! :heart: