Oliver Bertuch (Sep 21 2024 at 18:01): Oliver Bertuch (Sep 21 2024 at 18:01):Given how much pain it was to setup the proper build job for base images, I'm wondering if we should move on with our CI/CD scripting to sth like dagger.io.
I tuned into an episode of the K8s podcast about it: https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/236-dagger/
Eventually I had to write that shell script because Github Actions simply couldn't cut it. And I absolutely suffered from the effect of push and pray, as I also couldn't easily use act to testdrive the jobs locally.
And every now and then people are asking about how to run the usual CI jobs on their machines.
Also, we have a few rather complicated flows I set up that suffer from this push to cache, fetch from cache to pass around artifacts between builds.
And what happens if we move away from Github because Github is going down?
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 21 2024 at 18:02):There is an experimental Java SDK they work on as well. So we could even try to write these directed acyclic graphs in our main language.
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 21 2024 at 18:03):I really like that you can reuse other stuff from people that might be written in a different language.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 22 2024 at 12:12):I started listening. So far so good. I laughed at "push and pray" and how their community is basically "a support group for traumatized pipeline engineers". :rofl:
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 23 2024 at 12:15):I like how they do a recap of the interview at the end.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 25 2024 at 20:04):Could Dagger be used to automate our release process?
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 25 2024 at 20:05):That can be done in any CI "language".
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 25 2024 at 20:05):The release process is, as far as I can tell, far away from being non-automateable
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 25 2024 at 20:07):It's more of a political matter. People need to want to have it done that way.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 25 2024 at 20:19):Ok, @Steven Winship asked about automating it today. It deserves a dedicated topic, of course. I was just wondering if Dagger would be a good candidate.
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 25 2024 at 20:19):If we want to try out Dagger, sure, why not.
Oliver Bertuch (Sep 25 2024 at 20:20):If people feel reluctant to do such an important process in an experimental thing: just do it using GH actions YAML
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Sep 25 2024 at 20:21):I'd be happy with either one, honestly.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Nov 05 2024 at 17:28):@Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva this what I was telling you about. Dagger. ^^
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 27 2025 at 16:21):Related, sort of: https://www.feldera.com/blog/the-pain-that-is-github-actions
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