Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:40): Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:40):UVA has upgraded from V6.2 to V6.5,
Now we need to get the dataverse.mail.system-email setting set.
We do not have MicroConfig, so I know I need to add this setting to JVM, but what is the syntax? And where in the domain.xml file should it go?
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:43):In domain.xml, it should be put near the other "dataverse" lines.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:44):You can probably copy and paste a similar setting and tweak it.
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:44):I have this one that I think I can tweak?
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:44):
<jvm-options>-Ddataverse.bagit.sourceorg.email=libra@virginia.edu</jvm-options>
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:44):sure, great example
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:45):OK, where was this in the release notes?
I only found out looking at the log file.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:45):% ack system-email doc/release-notes
doc/release-notes/6.2-release-notes.md
81:Once reconfiguration is complete, you should remove legacy, unused config. First, run `asadmin delete-javamail-resource mail/notifyMailSession` as described in the [6.1 guides](https://guides.dataverse.org/en/6.2/installation/installation-main.html#mail-host-configuration-authentication). Then run `curl -X DELETE http://localhost:8080/api/admin/settings/:SystemEmail` as this database setting has been replace with `dataverse.mail.system-email` as described below.
83:Please note: as there have been problems with email delivered to SPAM folders when the "From" within mail envelope and the mail session configuration didn't match (#4210), as of this version the sole source for the "From" address is the setting `dataverse.mail.system-email` once you migrate to the new way of configuration.
347:- dataverse.mail.system-email
"Simplified SMTP Configuration" at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/releases/tag/v6.2
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:46):Oh... I was looking in V6.3,
thanks.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:46):We're trying to simplify your life. :heart:
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 20:51):I usually only look at the "Upgrade Instructions" thinking that's where the "to do" things are.
I should be reading the whole release :thinking:
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:52):Hmm, that's good feedback. /cc @Juan Pablo Tosca Villanueva
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 20:53):I agree. Better to have the "to do" stuff together under upgrade instructions.
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:06):This is a very big change, and we have not had emails working for 3 months (I see now). I am trying to following the guide, but not sure how?
Do I need to set these as well:
https://guides.dataverse.org/en/6.2/installation/config.html#dataverse-mail-mta
Since I did not set up SMTP, only added the :SystemMail DB setting.
I am not sure what to do.
So far I have added dataverse.mail.system-email, and dataverse.mail.support-email to domain.xml
Do I need to add the other ".mta" lines?
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:08):Yes, I believe so.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:09):Although...
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:09):In that 6.2 release note we say "deprecated" on "removed" right?
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:09):Does the old way still work? :thinking:
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:10):As usual, I'll run to @Don Sizemore who always has a better idea of how to actually run Dataverse than I do. :sweat_smile:
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:11):We are at V6.5,
I clicked "Support" link at the top and have not received the email from our Dataverse.
But notifications work - when creating a dataset and publishing, so I think email is working, just not support-email.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:11):Oh, interesting.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:11):I'm glad email is working in general. Phew!
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:12):Now that I have those two line in JVM, I'll stop/start payara (I need to do that, right).
And try email again.
Philip Durbin 🚀 (Mar 06 2025 at 21:12):yeah, you have to restart
Don Sizemore (Mar 06 2025 at 21:29):Hello, just getting off a call - Sherry, are you all set?
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:32):OK, now am getting emails from "Support" link.
Am set now.... and more importantly.... the "depreciated" message in our log files have stopped:
The :**SystemMail** DB setting has been deprecated, please reconfigure using JVM option dataverse.mail.system-email]]
Don Sizemore (Mar 06 2025 at 21:32):Those only print when it sends an e-mail, but yes it's nice to quiet them down. Are you as big into soccer as baseball?
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:33):Oh.... but I've got 5270 lines in the most recent server.log
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:34):I follow soccer, but baseball is my in-person game. I have season tickets to UVA baseball. I go to UVA soccer games when the weather is nice.
Don Sizemore (Mar 06 2025 at 21:35):Interesting! There is one server I've been meaning to update. I asked about soccer because the reason for shifting DCM by a day got announced today https://goheels.com/news/2025/3/4/general-mexican-and-turkish-mens-soccer-national-teams-to-meet-june-10-at-kenan-stadium
Sherry Lake (Mar 06 2025 at 21:41):Thanks @Don Sizemore @Philip Durbin ☀️ 
Now off to find reasons for a externaltools.zipPreviewer.displayname warning....
Might be a new troubleshooting topic tomorrow..... :smile:
Notification Bot (Mar 06 2025 at 21:42):Sherry Lake has marked this topic as resolved.
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