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Topic: publication ID Type "lissn"


view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 04 2025 at 09:09):

Hello everyone, I'm looking for information about the publication ID Type "lissn".
Does someone knows when or where it is used :) ?
I only found one dataset using it on Harvard Dataverse : https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/OCITAE

view this post on Zulip Oliver Bertuch (Jul 04 2025 at 10:56):

Are we talking https://www.issn.org/understanding-the-issn/assignment-rules/the-issn-l-for-publications-on-multiple-media/ ?

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 04 2025 at 11:47):

I am not sure, I also found this link but I don't find anytyhing else for lissn, also for the example dataset the lissn url sends just to the electronic publication so I don't know wether it is an ISSN-L or a "regular" ISSN :(

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 04 2025 at 12:03):

Oh wait when there's only one ISSN the L-ISSN is identical
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view this post on Zulip Oliver Bertuch (Jul 04 2025 at 12:26):

It sure looks like it's an ISSN-L https://portal.issn.org/api/search?search[]=MUST=allissnbis=%222348-8360%22&search_id=78620767

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 14 2025 at 14:13):

It looks like "lissn" was added way back in Datavese 4.0 when first added the tsv files: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/commit/f7e3a9aabb2079068f3787f2127794938196dadb

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 14 2025 at 14:16):

Unfortunately, the original google spreadsheet is gone (#11028) so I can't check the history.

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 14 2025 at 14:16):

@Julian Gautier do you happen to know anything about "lissn"?

view this post on Zulip Julian Gautier (Jul 14 2025 at 14:38):

Hey all. Yeah I think it's an ISSN-L, too. In DataCite's metadata standard it's described using LISSN and ISSN-L and almost all of the options in the Related Publication Identifier Type dropdown come from DataCite's list of relatedIdentifierType values

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 15 2025 at 08:44):

Thanks Julian :dataverse_man:.
I proposed a quick PR to add ISSN-L as alternative value for lissn to avoid similar interrogations in the future: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/pull/11638 :grinning:

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view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:10):

@Dimitri Szabo the alternative value doesn't show up in the UI anywhere does it?

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:12):

No it doesn't, we would have to change the display name for that :) It's an option if everyone is ok with that

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:18):

It's just something that came up during Triage Tuesday yesterday. I thought I'd mention it. :smile:

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:19):

To change the name in the UI, wouldn't you have to write a SQL update script to adjust the database as well?

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:36):

I'd have to check, I'm not sure an SQL script is needed if the id doesn't change :)

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:39):

Sorry, I mean a different theoretical PR that changes the id so that the new id (ISSN-L) is shown in the UI.

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:44):

Yes I understood :)
After looking at the tsv, yes it would be necessary as the value is currently the id
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view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:46):

(sorry for all the ugly red undelinings from the autocorrect)

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:46):

No worries.

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:48):

So! What do you think? Proceed with #11638 which will at least let developers know that lissn is the same as ISSN-L? People who look at these tsv files, I mean.

Or would you rather craft a new PR where you change the id and add a SQL script? This would show ISSN-L in the UI.

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:49):

I think that taking the time for the second one is the cleaner option as it wouldn't make it into 6.7 anyway :)

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Jul 16 2025 at 14:50):

Nothing else is making it into 6.7. Sorry. Please see #community > Release 6.7 Timeline. :smile:

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:51):

Exactly, so there is time for a better fix.
I'll put the current PR on draft for now and will close it when I'll have the new PR

view this post on Zulip Julian Gautier (Jul 16 2025 at 14:51):

Hey Dimitri, could you write more about how you came across this? Why were you looking for information about the publication ID Type "lissn"?

view this post on Zulip Dimitri Szabo (Jul 16 2025 at 14:53):

Hi Julian, sure, we were listing which fields values may or may not apply for softwares, and while browsing the list we realized we were not sure what lissn was

view this post on Zulip Oliver Bertuch (Jul 17 2025 at 08:12):

@Dimitri Szabo do you think available identifiers should be tied to dataset types? (It's not easy to do, so just asking for opinions here)


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