Stream: community

Topic: Transition fake DOIs to DataCite


view this post on Zulip Natalie Ayers (Mar 31 2025 at 20:04):

Hi all,

We've gone in reverse order a bit with our Dataverse, in that we've published about 100 datasets and now are looking to register the DOIs with DataCite.

Does anyone have any advice on the best way to go about this, ideally so we don't have to re-create the datasets?

view this post on Zulip Natalie Ayers (Mar 31 2025 at 20:05):

@Johannes D , I believe you've been working on a PR that would have similar functionality - I'm not sure if you have any steps you would recommend for this use case?

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Mar 31 2025 at 20:08):

I do think that PR by Johannes will help a lot.

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Mar 31 2025 at 20:09):

Meanwhile, there was a similar question here.

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Mar 31 2025 at 20:09):

Like Jim said in his reply, you can possibly fix this with some database hacking (which we don't recommend, generally).

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Mar 31 2025 at 20:11):

There's another thread here.

view this post on Zulip Johannes D (Apr 01 2025 at 07:01):

Yes, you can more or less use this PR to delete and assign a new PID. However, there is a safe guard that disabled that. If you comment that one and compile the branch you can move the fake DOIs to real ones... However, the "old" PID is still present in the database as secondary id and is used as filepath to the uploaded data

view this post on Zulip Johannes D (Apr 01 2025 at 07:02):

@Philip Durbin โ˜€๏ธ Shall we change this PR to allow an easy migration from fake DOI/permalinks to "real" PIDs? I have the feeling this is a regular question/request...

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (Apr 01 2025 at 12:26):

Yes, we probably should. It is a common question.

view this post on Zulip Johannes D (May 13 2026 at 10:12):

Just listening to Jims talk about locally FAIR data. This might be another use case to remove the safe guards and allow migration of PIDs in more cases.

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (May 13 2026 at 10:21):

Yes, good point.

view this post on Zulip Oliver Bertuch (May 13 2026 at 12:39):

In fairness: he did mention this and said it's non-trivial to do right. :slight_smile:

view this post on Zulip Johannes D (May 13 2026 at 12:56):

yeah I've posted before he talked about that :smile:

view this post on Zulip Philip Durbin ๐Ÿš€ (May 14 2026 at 14:20):

@Bryan Gee and @Tilo Mathes

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